Eklund: Sides Beginning to PR for Game 7. New Issues To Debate...Deal Breakers?

Eklund: Sides Beginning to PR for Game 7. New Issues To Debate...Deal Breakers?
- Eklund

You don't get it. You don't understand. I understand. You don't. It's quite simple. I am here, getting it. You are there, not getting it. So don't kid yourself. If there is anyone who gets it, it's me. If there is anyone who doesn't get it, it's everyone not being me.

I wish they would just cancel the season already

I love the meter...

Eklund: Sides Beginning to PR for Game 7. New Issues To Debate...Deal Breakers?
- Eklund

And if the (frank)ing PA had done a deal back in September/October these issues would be meaningless. These are only issues because of the damage done to the league revenues because the players were and are continuing to be too (frank)ing stupid to realize this.

Should go to 50/50 next year regardless. They created this mess. Let them deal with the consequenses.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h..._tweet_families_affected/

Spector's take

I love the meter...
- Flyfreaky

It's accurate to within .00000001 point of optimism.

is the meter really necessary still??

You don't get it. You don't understand. I understand. You don't. It's quite simple. I am here, getting it. You are there, not getting it. So don't kid yourself. If there is anyone who gets it, it's me. If there is anyone who doesn't get it, it's everyone not being me.
- Alexzanki

You're wrong!

I believe Fehr has made this mess drag out far longer than needed. Both he and Bettman are to blame, but I'd put the majority of it on Fehr if I had to. But I have this question:
What have the owners given in concession to the PA? So far, they've "come down" on their negotiations of HRR split, UFA status, etc. but all I've seen so far, fromt he previous CBA, is that the players will get a smaller split, smaller contract terms, and stricter year-to-year salary variances. I understand these changes may be necessary for failing business units to be only slightly bailed out by successful ones, but I'm just not sure what the PA will be given in exchange for what the NHL needs. I'm not being sarcastic at all, just wondering if I'm forgetting something.

Edit: The Devils are truly built for this time of year.

And if the (frank)ing PA had done a deal back in September/October these issues would be meaningless. These are only issues because of the damage done to the league revenues because the players were and are continuing to be too (frank)ing stupid to realize this.

Should go to 50/50 next year regardless. They created this mess. Let them deal with the consequenses.
- Iggysbff

You're funny

The meter makes perfect sense. They are talking about cancelling more games by the end of the week so bump up that meter.

Cancel the whole season already and fix it right!
48 game season is a joke!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/12/19/spector_nhl_lockout_kane_tweet_families_affected/

Spector's take
- Symba007

LOVE Spector's take!

Nailed it!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/12/19/spector_nhl_lockout_kane_tweet_families_affected/

Spector's take
- Symba007

yup.

You're wrong!


- Canada Cup

You don't get it. You don't understand. I understand. You don't. It's quite simple. I am here, getting it. You are there, not getting it. So don't kid yourself. If there is anyone who gets it, it's me. If there is anyone who doesn't get it, it's everyone not being me.

After listening to Bill Daly today in an interview... I side with the owners more than ever.

Players are out to lunch on some of these issues.

Unless they come to their senses... the NHL is done for the year.

But... I must admit I think they will fold in the end!!!

We are starting to hear murmurs if how both sides are dug in and what separates the two sides as both Bill Daly and Donald Fehr have done radio interviews today.

Really? We had no idea

More to come

However, the teams NOT named Philly, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, or New York don't feel it is fair

wow. so it's not fair that they play in big cities with the biggest fanbases in the NHL? jesus.

I believe Fehr has made this mess drag out far longer than needed. Both he and Bettman are to blame, but I'd put the majority of it on Fehr if I had to. But I have this question:
What have the owners given in concession to the PA? So far, they've "come down" on their negotiations of HRR split, UFA status, etc. but all I've seen so far, fromt he previous CBA, is that the players will get a smaller split, smaller contract terms, and stricter year-to-year salary variances. I understand these changes may be necessary for failing business units to be only slightly bailed out by successful ones, but I'm just not sure what the PA will be given in exchange for what the NHL needs. I'm not being sarcastic at all, just wondering if I'm forgetting something.
- jmatchett

30 teams in the league, keeping 700 jobs for the NHLPA.

After listening to Bill Daly today in an interview... I side with the owners more than ever.

Players are out to lunch on some of these issues.

Unless they come to their senses... the NHL is done for the year.

But... I must admit I think they will fold in the end!!!
- jimmc7722

What did he say?


The players are stupid and greedy? Did he relate the owners struggles to the plight of the common man?

That always gets me.

I wrote this below earlier and I stand by it, the players are grasping at straws. It is their own fault they are not playing right now, because the incremental benefit of any further concessions, which WILL BE minimal compared to what they gave up on balance, history will show them to be dumb. And now they sit and want more assurances on next years revenues. Here is a hint....sign a deal and start playing again IDIOTS!


How would you like to be an NHL player getting set for holidays?

Regardless if you are a Ford/Chevy guy, owner/player or lean left or right, here is where we sit right now and it really is this simple.

The owner/player direct meeting, which culminated in the meltdown a few Thursdays ago is where the players overplayed their hand.

Players and moderate owners had good faith negotiations and when owners made some concessions and believed the end was near, Fehr pulled Crosby and other pawns and moved the goal posts once again. That party foul or lack of negotiation decorum has backed players into the corner.

It is safe to say that it was a planned ploy hoping to get one more round of owner concessions. Instead they pushed to far.

I really believe now that the owners will sit and do nothing until the players (Spoiled children) stop stamping their feet and throwing tantrum and come down and face reality.

While there are a lot of labor lovers and people who hate the "man" as evidenced by the current political environment in the US. All emotion aside, you can not squeeze blood from a turnip. This issue is simple math. The players have to give owners enough/some incentive to own a team. I know JJ and others will point to leagues judgement errors in expanding to poor markets, but at the end of the day...that has created more jobs and total revenue growth.

Players betting owners fear losing more money, do not realize that their net loss will be the same with or without playing. More importantly, it is not worth owning a hobby that costs millions each year. Fixed costs are minimal. The largest expense items for teams is player salary and travel.

And if you lose teams, you lose hockey jobs. Again, insane.

So as the players stare at their wives at Christmas dinner or now as they finish their Christmas shopping.....how will those daggers effect these guys.

30 teams in the league, keeping 700 jobs for the NHLPA.
- Cochise

They had that last year with the 57-43 split. Next.

wow. so it's not fair that they play in big cities with the biggest fanbases in the NHL? jesus.
- DoubleDown

LOL you don't get it.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/12/19/spector_nhl_lockout_kane_tweet_families_affected/

Spector's take
- Symba007

Thanks for posting this, I haven't checked spector out in awhile and loved what he had to say.

LOL you don't get it.
- Le_Moderateur

Nice avatar